{"id":5412,"date":"2012-04-06T19:03:08","date_gmt":"2012-04-06T19:03:08","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-29T21:00:00","slug":"bir-zamanlar-ve-simdi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/2012\/04\/06\/bir-zamanlar-ve-simdi\/","title":{"rendered":"Bir zamanlar ve \u015fimdi."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;D&uuml;n, <a href=\"\/blogs\/obm\/index.php?msg=5408\">OBM&#8217;nin Lydia Narraway&#8217;in arkas\u0131ndan yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 blog giri\u015fi<\/a>ne istinaden, haz\u0131r Carver&#8217;dan da s\u0131ca\u011f\u0131 s\u0131ca\u011f\u0131na &quot;The Distance&quot;\u0131 okumu\u015fken, bir blog giri\u015fi de ben yapay\u0131m demi\u015ftim, olmad\u0131, dizi (Psych) seyrettik onun yerine, &ouml;yle yazmadan yat\u0131nca da gece r&uuml;yamda eski bir &quot;arkada\u015f\u0131&quot; g&ouml;rd&uuml;m, iyi mi? (de\u011fil ama olsun, iyidir in\u015fallah r&uuml;yamda onun da oldu\u011fu bir ortamda buluyordum kendimi, &quot;medeni olay\u0131m, bir merhaba diyeyim&quot; diye d&uuml;\u015f&uuml;n&uuml;rken bir t&uuml;rl&uuml; bak\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131 yakalayam\u0131yordum, sonra da i\u015fte &ccedil;ok ge&ccedil; oluyordu, &quot;awkwardness&quot; giriveriyordu araya. Tam b&ouml;yle d&uuml;\u015f&uuml;n&uuml;rken, bir anda birbirimizin g&ouml;r&uuml;\u015f alan\u0131na tekrar giriyorduk da, ben medeni &quot;merhaba&quot;m\u0131 kendisine iletebiliyordum, o da &quot;ah, ben de sana mektup yaz\u0131yordum \u015fimdiki garip durum hakk\u0131nda&quot; diyordu &#8211; ya da i\u015fte onun gibi bir \u015feyler&#8230;).<\/p>\n<p>Carver hakk\u0131nda &ccedil;ok yazas\u0131m var. Raymond Carver&#8217;\u0131 y\u0131llar y\u0131llar, seneler seneler evvel \u0130leti\u015fim Yay\u0131nlar\u0131&#8217;n\u0131n bast\u0131\u011f\u0131 &quot;A\u015fktan S&ouml;zetti\u011fimizde S&ouml;z&uuml;n&uuml; Ettiklerimiz&quot; kitab\u0131yla tan\u0131m\u0131\u015ft\u0131m, &ccedil;ok fena yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 o kitap beni, zaten o g&uuml;nlerde Tom Waits dinliyor, beri yanda Bukowski okuyordum, &ouml;yle b&ouml;yle de\u011fildim yani anlayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131z. \u0130lerleyen y\u0131llarda hikayelerinin hemen hepsini \u0130ngilizce&#8217;den okudum, \u015fimdi <a href=\"index.php?msg=1221\">vaktiyle yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir giri\u015fi<\/a> buldum da, oraya i\u015faret edip, taksimi k\u0131sa kesece\u011fim.<\/p>\n<p>Ge&ccedil;en sene Carver&#8217;\u0131n yay\u0131nlam\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fu b&uuml;t&uuml;n hikayelerini i&ccedil;eren bir bask\u0131 buldum (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Raymond-Carver-Collected-Stories-Library\/dp\/1598530461\">Raymond Carver: Collected Stories (Library of America)<\/a>), orada &quot;A\u015fktan S&ouml;zettimizde S&ouml;z&uuml;n&uuml; Ettiklerimiz&quot;in (&quot;What We Talk About When We Talk About Love&quot;), Carver&#8217;\u0131n efsane edit&ouml;r&uuml; Gordon Lish&#8217;in eline ge&ccedil;meden &ouml;nceki hali (&quot;eline ge&ccedil;ti\u011fi hali&quot; demek daha do\u011fru olacak) olan &quot;Beginners&quot; da yer almakta. Lish, inan\u0131lmayacak bir oranda, haddini fersah fersah a\u015fan de\u011fi\u015fiklikler uygulam\u0131\u015f. Kitab\u0131n sonunda ilgili de\u011fi\u015fiklikler &uuml;zerine Carver&#8217;\u0131n ona yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 mektuplar da yer ald\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan pek &uuml;zerinde anla\u015f\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olduklar\u0131 da s&ouml;ylenemez. Buna ra\u011fmen, tek bir \u015fey s&ouml;ylemeye hakk\u0131m var m\u0131? Pek yok, zira Carver&#8217;\u0131 okuyup da be\u011fendi\u011fim o hikayeler, asl\u0131nda Lish&#8217;in ku\u015fa &ccedil;evirdi\u011fi, i&ccedil;lerindeki iyi duygular\u0131 g&ouml;rd&uuml;\u011f&uuml; yerde sildi\u011fi, hakaretlerle de\u011fi\u015ftirdi\u011fi hikayelerin ta kendisi. Orijinal hallerini okuyunca daha da vurulmad\u0131m m\u0131, vuruldum tabii ki de. \u0130lk olarak orijinallerini, d&uuml;zenlenmemi\u015f hallerini okusayd\u0131m, be\u011fenmeyecek miydim? Daha bile be\u011fenecektim ama yine de Lish&#8217;in bu ay\u0131b\u0131n\u0131 vaktiyle bilmeden onaylam\u0131\u015f\u0131m, lekesi s\u0131&ccedil;ram\u0131\u015f.<\/p>\n<p>Gene kitab\u0131n sonundaki notlardan ve kronolojiden anl\u0131yoruz ki, Carver ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 yazm\u0131\u015f bir adam. &Ouml;yle ba\u015far\u0131n\u0131n tad\u0131na da pek varmam\u0131\u015f, yani <em>o<\/em> anlamda, \u015fan-\u015f&ouml;hret, Ernest Hemingway gibi filan olmam\u0131\u015f. Tabii skalan\u0131n &ouml;b&uuml;r ucunda Kafka da say\u0131lmaz ama hikayelerinin faraza New Yorker&#8217;da yay\u0131nlanmakta olu\u015fu filan yine de hayat\u0131n\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirmemi\u015f. Yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi bir ya\u015fam s&uuml;rm&uuml;\u015f, ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131z evlilik, gayri me\u015fru ili\u015fkiler, alkolizm, mutsuzluk, bitmi\u015flik, bezginlik, atlar\u0131 da vururlar &ccedil;aresizli\u011fi.<br \/>\n<br type=\"_moz\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Hikayelerinde iyiler, k&ouml;t&uuml;ler yok. Hikayelerinde insanlar var. \u0130nsan\u0131n paras\u0131 olunca iyi olmas\u0131 da kolay oluyor, onun hikayelerinde paras\u0131 olan insanlar pek yok. Ge&ccedil;en hafta \u015feytana uydum, ka&ccedil; defa &quot;yok, seyredemem, dayanamam&#8230;&quot; dedi\u011fim &quot;Kader&quot;i (Zeki Demirkubuz) seyrettim, iyi halt ettim. Allahtan do\u011frusal olmayan bir \u015fekilde izledim yine de &ccedil;ok fena yapt\u0131 beni &#8212; yoksa &ouml;yle ba\u015f\u0131ndan kuzu gibi ba\u015flasam, m&uuml;mk&uuml;n de\u011fildi toparlanmam (Masumiyet hala kanar i&ccedil;imde, bu, oradan bildi\u011finizi de kullan\u0131yor size kar\u015f\u0131). Carver&#8217;\u0131n hikayelerinde de g&ouml;r&uuml;yorsunuz o a\u015fk\u0131n (daha Amerikan usul&uuml; yumu\u015fam\u0131\u015f) hallerini (&quot;Beginners&quot; hikayesinin ba\u015f\u0131ndaki a\u015fk hikayesi ile &quot;Pie&quot; mesela, ama benim i&ccedil;in en keskin bi&ccedil;imde &quot;One More Thing&quot; oldu (&quot;What We Talk About When We Talk About Love&quot;da &ouml;z&uuml;nden s\u0131yr\u0131l\u0131p tan\u0131nmaz hale getirilmi\u015f)).<\/p>\n<p>Neyse, diyeceklerim bunlar de\u011fildi. \u0130stedi\u011fim, vaktiyle guzelonlu&#8217;da g&ouml;r&uuml;p vuruldu\u011fum resim alt\u0131 yaz\u0131s\u0131yla birlikte <a href=\"http:\/\/guzelonlu.tumblr.com\/post\/8566125849\/this-photograph-is-my-proof-there-was-that\">\u015fu foto\u011fraf\u0131<\/a> apart\u0131p, alt\u0131na da Carver&#8217;\u0131n &quot;The Distance&quot;\u0131n\u0131n son paragraf\u0131n\u0131 ekleyip, OBM&#8217;ye \u0130talyan K\u0131z&#8217;lara &ccedil;ok da tak\u0131lmamas\u0131n\u0131 s&ouml;ylemekti, gene bir ton laf, bir ton kalabal\u0131k, ton bal\u0131kl\u0131 salata&#8230;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/blogs\/sururi\/images\/duane_michals__this_is_my_proof__1974.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"456\" alt=\"\" \/><br \/>\n<small>&ldquo;This Photograph is my proof. There was that afternoon, <br \/>\nwhen things were still good between us, and she embraced <br \/>\nme, and we were so happy. It did happen. She did <br \/>\nlove me. Look see for yourself!&rdquo;<\/small><\/p>\n<p>This is My Proof, Duane Michals (1974)<br type=\"_moz\" \/><br \/>\n<\/center> <\/p>\n<p>The Distance, Raymond Carver (1978):<br \/>\n(&#8230;) But he continues to stand at the window, remembering that gone life. After that morning there would be those hard times ahead, other women for him and another man for her, but that morning, that particular morning, they had danced. They had danced, and then they held to each other as if there would always be that morning, and later they laughed about that waffle. They leaned on each other and laughed about it until tears came, while outside everything froze, for a while anyway.<br \/>\n<br type=\"_moz\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;D&uuml;n, OBM&#8217;nin Lydia Narraway&#8217;in arkas\u0131ndan yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 blog giri\u015fine istinaden, haz\u0131r Carver&#8217;dan da s\u0131ca\u011f\u0131 s\u0131ca\u011f\u0131na &quot;The Distance&quot;\u0131 okumu\u015fken, bir blog giri\u015fi de ben yapay\u0131m demi\u015ftim, olmad\u0131, dizi (Psych) seyrettik onun yerine, &ouml;yle yazmadan yat\u0131nca da gece r&uuml;yamda eski bir &quot;arkada\u015f\u0131&quot; g&ouml;rd&uuml;m, iyi mi? (de\u011fil ama olsun, iyidir in\u015fallah r&uuml;yamda onun da oldu\u011fu bir ortamda buluyordum kendimi, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/2012\/04\/06\/bir-zamanlar-ve-simdi\/\" class=\"more-link\">Okumaya devam et<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Bir zamanlar ve \u015fimdi.&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5412"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5412"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5412\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5412"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5412"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5412"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}