{"id":5643,"date":"2013-07-24T18:59:33","date_gmt":"2013-07-24T18:59:33","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-29T21:00:00","slug":"iki-sey-cunku-bitektir-leke","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/2013\/07\/24\/iki-sey-cunku-bitektir-leke\/","title":{"rendered":"iki \u015fey&#8230; (\u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc bitektir leke)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ne zamand\u0131r iki tane al\u0131nt\u0131 yapmak istiyordum buraya, <em>Ya\u015fama Sevinci <\/em>ile birlikte (malumunuz)&#8230; Bir tanesi \u015eopi&#8217;nin bir kitab\u0131n\u0131n (tabii ki &quot;Hayat\u0131n Anlam\u0131&quot;) ba\u015f\u0131na kondurdu\u011fu bir g&uuml;zellikti; di\u011feri ise y\u0131llar y\u0131llar evvel (sene 1994, onlar da insand\u0131lar, ve sevgiye inand\u0131lar, senin gibi, benim gibi), sevgili \u0130dris&#8217;ten (ah \u0130dris, ah!) ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m 4-5 Defter dergisinden birindeydi, &quot;o&quot; dergiler &quot;bu&quot; kutulardan &ccedil;\u0131kmad\u0131lar, ne mutlu ki, Defter&#8217;leri taray\u0131p internete koymu\u015flar (internet, mon amour)<\/p>\n<p>(&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Son bir bu&ccedil;uk saattir, Defter&#8217;in taranm\u0131\u015f say\u0131lar\u0131 aras\u0131nda sizin iki-&uuml;&ccedil; sat\u0131r yukar\u0131da bahsini g&ouml;rd&uuml;\u011f&uuml;n&uuml;z \u015feyi (\u015fiiri) aramaktay\u0131m, bulamad\u0131m. Akl\u0131mda kalanlar:<\/p>\n<p>(&#8230;)Korinthos&#8217;a gitme<br \/>\nGidersen evlenme<br \/>\nEvlenirsen &ccedil;ocuk yapma(&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>m\u0131sralar\u0131 idi &quot;eski bir \u015fiirin&quot;. &Uuml;stelik, bu \u015fiir ana metin olarak yer alm\u0131yordu, yanl\u0131\u015f hat\u0131rlam\u0131yorsam (13-94 = 19 = h&ouml;h!) epigraf olarak yer al\u0131yordu da, dipnotlarda tamam\u0131 veriliyordu. Epey bir bakt\u0131m Defter&#8217;deki (<em>defterlerdeki<\/em>) yaz\u0131lara, ama bir t&uuml;rl&uuml; bulamad\u0131m (Meltem Ah\u0131ska, Nurdan G&uuml;rbilek, G&uuml;nseli \u0130nce, Hulki Aktun&ccedil;, Orhan Pamuk, bir s&uuml;r&uuml;, bir s&uuml;r&uuml; isim! Hatta bir ara &ccedil;evirmen olarak Serdar Erener bile g&ouml;rd&uuml;m). Doris Lessing&#8217;i ilk defa orada okuyup d&uuml;\u015fk&uuml;n&uuml; olmu\u015ftum (&quot;<a href=\"http:\/\/epigraf.fisek.com.tr\/?num=19\">Pek Sevimli Olmayan Bir Hikaye<\/a>&quot;), var daha bir s&uuml;r&uuml; \u015fey. Neyse, ne diyordum, bulamad\u0131m o \u015fiiri (d&uuml;zensiz olarak y\u0131llar y\u0131l\u0131 internetteki aray\u0131\u015flar\u0131m da sonu&ccedil;suz kalm\u0131\u015ft\u0131).<\/p>\n<p>Bir daha arayay\u0131m dedim, \u0130ngilizce yazd\u0131m, T&uuml;rk&ccedil;e yazd\u0131m, sonunda az evvel bir ipucu yakalad\u0131m:<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.academia.edu\/522844\/For_Whom_do_the_Jasmins_Smell_An_Analysis_of_Alev_Alatlis_Yaseminler_tuter_mi_hala_\">For Whom do the Jasmins Smell?<br \/>\nAn Analysis of Alev Alatl\u0131&rsquo;s Yaseminler t&uuml;ter mi, hala?<br \/>\nErdem Erginel<\/a><\/div>\n<p>\ng&ouml;kte ararken&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\nMetni hemen a&ccedil;\u0131p, ilgili yeri aratt\u0131m, taratt\u0131m; yazar, Lawrance Durrel&#8217;in &quot;Bitter Lemon&quot; kitab\u0131n\u0131n &ouml;zensiz &ccedil;evirmeninden yak\u0131n\u0131yormu\u015f, (ayr\u0131ca Korinthos de\u011filmi\u015f, Girne&#8217;ymi\u015f (Kyrenia)) \u015f&ouml;yleymi\u015f (<em>tangolar kendisiymi\u015f&#8230;<\/em>):<\/p>\n<div style=\"background-color:#E0E09B;border:1px solid black;\">The Turkish Cypriot sayings that appear in Durrell&rsquo;s original work have been translated into Turkish from English, leading to absurd results.  One example is the Turkish Cypriot song in Bitter Lemons (BL, 28), which is translated word-by-word:<\/p>\n<p>Kyrenia&rsquo;ya gelirseniz<br \/>\nSurlardan i&ccedil;eri girmeyin.<br \/>\nSurlardan i&ccedil;eri girerseniz<br \/>\nUzun s&uuml;re kalmay\u0131n,<br \/>\nUzun s&uuml;re kal\u0131rsan\u0131z<br \/>\nEvlenmeyin<br \/>\nEvlenirseniz <br \/>\n&Ccedil;ocuk yapmay\u0131n.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>There are various versions of this Turkish Cypriot folk song, but the one closest to Durrell&rsquo;s version runs:<\/p>\n<p>Girne <br \/>\n\u0130&ccedil;ine girme<br \/>\nGirersen eylenme<br \/>\nEylenirsen evlenme<br \/>\nEvlenirsen d&ouml;llenme<br \/>\nD&ouml;llenirsen &ccedil;ocuk etme<br \/>\n&Ccedil;ocuk edersen evlendirme.<\/p>\n<p>This carelessness and indifference indicate a lack of interest towards the community the translated work attempts to describe.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\nhuzur benim oldu (nerdeee!..)<br \/>\n<br type=\"_moz\" \/><br \/>\n\u0130\u015fte b&ouml;yle bir \u015feyler. G&ouml;kten internete -burada yaz\u0131lanlarla ilintili olarak- &uuml;&ccedil; (&quot;3&quot;) \u015fey i&ccedil;in te\u015fekk&uuml;r d&uuml;\u015fm&uuml;\u015f:<br \/>\n1) <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/file\/d\/0B0CxwkAmrjuGYW5MT3J2UU1qRHc\/edit\">Defter ar\u015fivi<\/a> i&ccedil;in<br \/>\n2) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hayaletgemi.com\/\">Hayalet Gemi<\/a> ar\u015fivi i&ccedil;in<br \/>\n3) Hasan Safkan&#8217;\u0131n &quot;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.zorcan.net\/shared\/hasan_safkan.pdf\">Kuzey Afrika&#8217;dan Portekiz&#8217;e, ordan eve<\/a>&quot; kitab\u0131 i&ccedil;in<br \/>\n4) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dropbox.com\/sh\/0a7ssc5q1knjoxr\/uiaEOm2o5V\">\u015eizofrengi<\/a> ar\u015fivi i&ccedil;in (ah muhsin &uuml;nl&uuml;, ah!) (27 say\u0131s\u0131ndan 13&#8217;&uuml; kalm\u0131\u015f bu kubbede)<\/p>\n<p>Pek &ccedil;ok entel arkada\u015f\u0131m olsa da (ben ve benim gibiler peh peh&#8230;) yan\u0131nda dantel kald\u0131\u011f\u0131m(\u0131z) bir x vard\u0131r ki, diyece\u011fim odur ki, Defter ar\u015fivi 550MB olup, &ccedil;ok k&ouml;t&uuml; taranm\u0131\u015f bir haldedir, yaz\u0131lar pek zor okunuyordur, o y&uuml;zden merak kediyi de bandwidth&#8217;i de &ouml;ld&uuml;r&uuml;r, ama yine de siz bilirsiniz tabii (ha, yok, diyece\u011fim o de\u011fildi, \u015fuydu: x de\u011filseniz, 550MB&#8217;\u0131 indirip de, &quot;bu ne yahu?&quot; diyecekseniz, ba\u015ftan uyaray\u0131m&#8230; hatta uyarmayay\u0131m, bir tane say\u0131y\u0131 koyay\u0131m, yok, &uuml;\u015fendim, uyaray\u0131m (ba\u015ftan)).&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Uzun oldu &ccedil;ok, resim ister bu yaz\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;sonradan not: ya ben &quot;fit fit&quot; &ouml;tt&uuml;m ama \u015fimdi bir \u015feye bakmak i&ccedil;in geri gitti\u011fimde g&ouml;rd&uuml;m ki, <a href=\"http:\/\/defterdergisi.wordpress.com\/category\/defter\/\">tek tek de bak\u0131labiliyormu\u015f say\u0131lara<\/a>, hem de derli toplu, aferin bana, ama her i\u015fte bir hay\u0131r vard\u0131r: b&ouml;ylelikle nas\u0131l da ahkam bir insan oldu\u011fumu ilk elden g&ouml;rd&uuml;n&uuml;z, ayr\u0131ca yukar\u0131y\u0131 silip delilleri de yok etmiyorum, b&ouml;ylesi aymazl\u0131k, utanmazl\u0131k&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;daha da sonradan not:<br \/>\n\u015eopi&#8217;nin bahsetti\u011fim al\u0131nt\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 al\u0131nt\u0131lamay\u0131 da unutmu\u015fum &uuml;stelik!<br \/>\nTheognis&#8217;ten t&uuml;m sevenlere geliyor:<\/p>\n<p>Optima sors homini natum non esse, nec unquam<br \/>\nAdispexisse diem, flammiferumque jubar.<br \/>\nAltera jam genitum demitti protinus Orco,<br \/>\nEt pressum multa mergere corpus humo.<\/p>\n<p>\u0130nsan i&ccedil;in hi&ccedil; do\u011fmam\u0131\u015f olmak, g&uuml;ne\u015fin kavurucu \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hi&ccedil; g&ouml;rmemi\u015f olmak en iyisi olurdu, ama e\u011fer do\u011fmu\u015fsa olabildi\u011fince &ccedil;abuk Hades&#8217;in kap\u0131lar\u0131na ko\u015fturmal\u0131 ve orada yerin alt\u0131nda huzur bulmal\u0131d\u0131r. (&Ccedil;ev:Ahmet Aydo\u011fan)<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/blogs\/sururi\/images\/camposanto3avci.png\" width=\"288\" height=\"325\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">3 Avc\u0131 kendi cesetleriyle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015f\u0131yor &#8211; Campo Santo&#8217;daki bir freskten ayr\u0131nt\u0131, Pisa, 15. yy. (Defter, #2 &nbsp;Philippe Aries, &quot;Yasak &Ouml;l&uuml;m&quot;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ne zamand\u0131r iki tane al\u0131nt\u0131 yapmak istiyordum buraya, Ya\u015fama Sevinci ile birlikte (malumunuz)&#8230; Bir tanesi \u015eopi&#8217;nin bir kitab\u0131n\u0131n (tabii ki &quot;Hayat\u0131n Anlam\u0131&quot;) ba\u015f\u0131na kondurdu\u011fu bir g&uuml;zellikti; di\u011feri ise y\u0131llar y\u0131llar evvel (sene 1994, onlar da insand\u0131lar, ve sevgiye inand\u0131lar, senin gibi, benim gibi), sevgili \u0130dris&#8217;ten (ah \u0130dris, ah!) ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m 4-5 Defter dergisinden birindeydi, &quot;o&quot; dergiler &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/2013\/07\/24\/iki-sey-cunku-bitektir-leke\/\" class=\"more-link\">Okumaya devam et<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;iki \u015fey&#8230; (\u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc bitektir leke)&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[10],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5643"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5643"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5643\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5643"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5643"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.emresururi.com\/blogs\/sururi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5643"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}